Showing posts with label toronto fc. Show all posts
Showing posts with label toronto fc. Show all posts
Wednesday, September 22, 2010
Tuesday, August 17, 2010
Well That Didn't Take Long
Less than 24 hours after I opined that a Mexican team had to lose at some point in the CONCACAF Champions League, Toronto FC managed to shock Cruz Azul 2-1 at BMO Field. By defeating last year's runners-up Toronto FC became the first MLS team to beat a Mexican team in the 2+ years of the Champions League. The last time an MLS team defeated a Mexican team in a CONCACAF tournament was April of 2008 when DC United beat Pachuca in the semifinals of the old Champions Cup.
Saturday, January 16, 2010
MLS Attendance: Best Seasons
Historically this category has been owned by the Galaxy. More than half of the 20 best seasons belong to the team from Los Angeles. If you look closely, there's some proof that TFKA Metro hasn't always been inept at getting people to come see soccer. With their new home in Harrison opening next year, it will be interesting to see if they might be able to get their attendance back into this lofty company.
Looking at the numbers in regards to how far above the league average each team was, Seattle's inaugural season is absolutely shocking. Not only did they set the record for average attendance, but they almost doubled up the league average. This absolutely shatters the previous mark. Also interesting in my mind is that Toronto has averaged over 20,000 fans each year, but still can't make the top 20 list.
year team home avg
1 2009 Seattle 30,897
2 1996 Los Angeles 28,916
3 2008 Los Angeles 26,009
4 2007 Los Angeles 24,252
5 2005 Los Angeles 24,204
6 1996 New York 23,898
7 2004 Los Angeles 23,809
8 2003 Los Angeles 21,983
9 1998 Los Angeles 21,784
10 2001 DC 21,518
11 1997 New England 21,423
12 2007 DC 20,967
13 2006 Los Angeles 20,814
14 2001 New York 20,806
15 2002 Colorado 20,690
16 1997 Los Angeles 20,626
17 2009 Los Angeles 20,416
18 2000 Los Angeles 20,400
19 2009 Toronto 20,344
20 2007 Toronto 20,130
Looking at the numbers in regards to how far above the league average each team was, Seattle's inaugural season is absolutely shocking. Not only did they set the record for average attendance, but they almost doubled up the league average. This absolutely shatters the previous mark. Also interesting in my mind is that Toronto has averaged over 20,000 fans each year, but still can't make the top 20 list.
year team diff in %
1 2009 Seattle 92.66
2 1996 Los Angeles 66.12
3 2005 Los Angeles 60.20
4 2008 Los Angeles 58.01
5 2004 Los Angeles 53.02
6 1998 Los Angeles 52.21
7 2000 Los Angeles 48.30
8 2003 Los Angeles 47.56
9 1997 New England 46.54
10 2007 Los Angeles 44.62
11 2001 DC 43.83
12 1997 Los Angeles 41.09
13 2001 New York 39.07
14 1996 New York 37.29
15 2000 DC 35.07
16 2006 Los Angeles 34.25
17 1998 New England 34.07
18 2002 Colorado 30.77
19 2000 New York 28.10
20 2006 Chivas USA 27.96
Thursday, October 01, 2009
Attendance: Jumping From USL-1 to MLS
One of the arguments used against Major League Soccer expansion markets is that they already have a USL-1 team that draws poorly. Now that the Seattle Sounders have jumped ship, there are two franchises we can examine to see if this critique is fair.
Major League Soccer has got to be hoping this trend continues. Vancouver and Portland will be coming online in 2011, and both of them have been in the top five of USL-1 attendance each of the last five years. In fact between the two teams there has only been one season since 2005 with an average attendance under 5,000 fans per game.
- Before Toronto FC came into existence in 2007, the Lynx represented that city in USL-1. They averaged 2,468 fans in 2005 and just over 1,700 fans in 2006.
- Seattle is a similar story. From 2005 and 2008 their average attendance never broke 4,000 fans per game, and dipped below 3,000 in 2005.
Major League Soccer has got to be hoping this trend continues. Vancouver and Portland will be coming online in 2011, and both of them have been in the top five of USL-1 attendance each of the last five years. In fact between the two teams there has only been one season since 2005 with an average attendance under 5,000 fans per game.
Friday, September 25, 2009
MLS Attendance: The Sophomore Slump
With the impending addition of franchises in Philly, Vancouver and Portland, I thought it would be interesting to see how much of a "sophomore slump" expansion franchises experienced in regards to attendance.
Here are the numbers for the recent expansion teams, as well as Houston who moved from San Jose in 2006. The Year 1 number is the mean attendance. The successive year numbers are the percent difference compared to the team's first year.
The stat line for Chivas USA shows the danger of using the mean attendance, rather than the median. In 2006, they hosted the Revolution as part of a doubleheader that included Chivas Guadalajara. That game drew over 92,000 fans -- almost 30% of their total attendance for the year. If you factor out that anomaly, their attendance looks like this:
What surprised me about the numbers is that for most teams, attendance kept falling for two years, rather than just one. Houston and Toronto managed to buck that trend.
There has been recent buzz that Seattle has a 6,000 person waiting list for season tickets, and as such may raise their seating capacity next season. If they in fact see a significant boost to attendance in their second season, they would be the first expansion franchise to do so, further underlining how amazing that franchise's support has been.
To be fair, Toronto could probably sell more tickets right now, but they can't expand their capacity without some major construction.
Here are the numbers for the recent expansion teams, as well as Houston who moved from San Jose in 2006. The Year 1 number is the mean attendance. The successive year numbers are the percent difference compared to the team's first year.
Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4
Chicago 17,887 -10.5 -25.2 -8.4
Chivas USA 17,080 16.2 -16.2 -11.5
Salt Lake 18,037 -9.3 -11.5 -10.3
Houston 18,935 -16.1 -10.5 -14.9*
Toronto 20,130 0.0 +1.0* n/a
* season still in progress
The stat line for Chivas USA shows the danger of using the mean attendance, rather than the median. In 2006, they hosted the Revolution as part of a doubleheader that included Chivas Guadalajara. That game drew over 92,000 fans -- almost 30% of their total attendance for the year. If you factor out that anomaly, their attendance looks like this:
Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4
Chivas USA 17,080 -12.3 -16.2 -11.5
What surprised me about the numbers is that for most teams, attendance kept falling for two years, rather than just one. Houston and Toronto managed to buck that trend.
There has been recent buzz that Seattle has a 6,000 person waiting list for season tickets, and as such may raise their seating capacity next season. If they in fact see a significant boost to attendance in their second season, they would be the first expansion franchise to do so, further underlining how amazing that franchise's support has been.
To be fair, Toronto could probably sell more tickets right now, but they can't expand their capacity without some major construction.
Sunday, September 06, 2009
Expansion's Effect on MLS Attendance
There's an assumption that expansion teams dramatically help league-wide attendance in their first year. While it's true that these team usually draw above the league average at home, their overall impact is actually a lot less than I expected. The reason is that these teams don't draw especially well on the road.
In 2007 Toronto came into the league, and average attendance was just 0.75% higher including their games.
Chivas USA and Real Salt Lake joined in 2005, and average attendance was 3.82% higher factoring in their games. This was helped in part by the Superclassico which drove Chivas' "road" attendance significantly above the league average.
In 1998, the Fire and Miami Fusion joined the league. Average attendance was just 0.48% higher when their games are included. Oddly enough, the Fusion's road numbers were actually higher than the league average, but their home attendance more than offset this. If you factor out the Fusion, and just include the Fire's numbers, the attendance was 2.18% better off with them in the league.
This brings us to to this year. Seattle's phenomenal home support really has been a boon to the league average. Their 30,000+ average thus far has actually led to an 8.18% increase in average attendance even though their average road attendance is roughly 1,200 fans below the league average.
In 2007 Toronto came into the league, and average attendance was just 0.75% higher including their games.
total att. games mean
2007 all 3,270,210 195 16,770
TOR home 301,947 15 20,130
TOR away 221,650 15 14,777
totals w/o TOR 2,746,613 165 16,646
Chivas USA and Real Salt Lake joined in 2005, and average attendance was 3.82% higher factoring in their games. This was helped in part by the Superclassico which drove Chivas' "road" attendance significantly above the league average.
total att. games mean
2005 all 2,900,716 192 15,108
CHV home 273,284 16 17,080
CHV away 268,176 16 16,761
RSL home 288,586 16 18,037
RSL away 207,985 16 12,999
adj. totals 1,862,685 128 14,552
In 1998, the Fire and Miami Fusion joined the league. Average attendance was just 0.48% higher when their games are included. Oddly enough, the Fusion's road numbers were actually higher than the league average, but their home attendance more than offset this. If you factor out the Fusion, and just include the Fire's numbers, the attendance was 2.18% better off with them in the league.
total att. games mean
1998 all 2,747,897 192 14,312
CHI home 286,190 16 17,887
CHI away 220,734 16 13,796
MIA home 164,548 16 10,284
MIA away 253,269 16 15,829
adj. totals 1,823,156 128 14,243
This brings us to to this year. Seattle's phenomenal home support really has been a boon to the league average. Their 30,000+ average thus far has actually led to an 8.18% increase in average attendance even though their average road attendance is roughly 1,200 fans below the league average.
total att. games mean
2009 all 2,755,194 175 15,744
sea home 397,628 13 30,587
sea away 159,951 11 14,541
totals w/o SEA 2,197,615 151 14,554
Tuesday, August 04, 2009
Can MLS Advance?
Here's what the three MLS teams need to do this week to make it into the group stages of the CONCACAF Champions League:
Toronto FC
Down a goal after their home leg, things look fairly bleak. These results would get them through:
DC United
The 1-1 tie at RFK didn't completely kill their chances of advancing, but they absolutely have to score in El Salvador. They advance with:
New York Red Bulls
OK -- hands up if you expected the Red Bulls to have the best chance of advancing to the group stage... Mrs. Osorio, you can put your hand down now. Coming away with a 2-2 tie in their away leg was a huge result. There are many ways NY can advance:
Toronto FC
Down a goal after their home leg, things look fairly bleak. These results would get them through:
- A win by two goals or more
- A scoring draw with two or more goals
DC United
The 1-1 tie at RFK didn't completely kill their chances of advancing, but they absolutely have to score in El Salvador. They advance with:
- A win
- A scoring draw with two or more goals
New York Red Bulls
OK -- hands up if you expected the Red Bulls to have the best chance of advancing to the group stage... Mrs. Osorio, you can put your hand down now. Coming away with a 2-2 tie in their away leg was a huge result. There are many ways NY can advance:
- A win
- Any draw with less than two goals scored
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